Episode 43
Guests: Cameron Rasmussen, MSW; Durrell Washington, MSW; Michelle Grier, LMSW; Vivianne Guevara, LMSW
Host: Shimon Cohen, LCSW
Durrell Washington, Vivianne Guevara, Cameron Rasmussen, and Michelle Grier of the Network to Advance Abolitionist Social Work (NAASW) discuss their collective efforts to integrate abolition into social work practice. They explain how social work has historically supported carceral systems and how NAASW challenges the profession's complicity with policing, surveillance, and white supremacy. The conversation explores what abolition means, how to apply it in both vision and action, and how their collective offers support for navigating the tensions between values and practice. This episode invites listeners to reimagine social work rooted in collective care, radical healing, and transformative justice.
In this episode:
- What abolition means and how it can be applied as a framework for social work
- How social work has supported — and continues to support — carceral systems, surveillance, and gatekeeping
- The connection between social work's complicity and white supremacy and liberalism
- How to take smaller steps toward abolition now while working toward a larger long-term vision
- How NAASW provides collective support for social workers doing abolition work in the field
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